I Don't Smoke
Such a simple term really, until now.
I have learned some new things and will share my thoughts.
Words , however simple can be misconstrued. Help offered in sincerity is taken defensively. An alternative to smoking seems like a threat without communication. A compromise can be met with openness and understanding on both sides. Words must be chosen with care. A meeting of the minds must come together to understand what each other expects in a merge.
Can there be a compromise? Can vaping (if legal) be a viable Alternative to Smoking? Someday you may have a choice.
Research is available , more should be done. Some governments are for it, others against. It's your life, do your own research.
Assuming it is 95% safer than Smoking it seems a no-brainer.
Assuming there is not nicotine in it then what purpose does it serve? Perhaps it is a purely social thing?
Perhaps it could be used as easing the void in smoking cessation.
Could we not use a straw or pencil if we missed it that badly?
If it contained nicotine (legally) could you wean yourself off of nicotine even if it took a year as nicotine is not the most harmful if harmful part of a cigarette. What incentive would you have to wean yourself off of vaping nicotine other than the nicotine monster would still insist on being fed. Would that still be important to you after quitting the most harmful effects of smoking?
As smokers and addicts of nicotine, no matter how much time has elapsed, any nicotine will fire up those receptors and you will have to feed that caged animal once again.
For young ones who have not smoked does the nicotine in vaping give them any satisfaction. Remember that some of us did not enjoy our first experiences smoking, but when we kept forcing it on our body, or minds allowed us to accept it by becoming pleasurable.
Will increasing the mgs of nicotine increase pleasure? Is that with health issues?
So many questions to be answered by us who know nothing of vaping. Just because we don't know the answers does not mean we are against. It is not even legal here, yet.
I tried to get answers. I tried to inquired how vaping could be used as an NRT, and what i think many here would want to know if there was a special quit vape/nicotine program and what steps are advised. Perhaps we would become that group.
There is no compromise if you seek freedom . Nicotine in any form will keep you addicted.
I still believe than a real desire to quit smoking and the nicotine addiction or vaping and the nicotine addiction can be achieved with the right mindset. Understanding yourself and nicotine and how it controlled you.
If legal and proven safe enough to you the user, it would certainly seem to be a viable option to smoking . Would you still strive to be free from the never ending demands of nicotine. Could you cut down and step off. Would you adopt the mindset and go cold turkey or use the patch. Would there not still be the psychological aspect in quitting vaping? That void to fill yet again?
As a quit group perhaps we have to be open to this new alternative. Not all are from Australia....and smoking kills.
If being open to this i would hope that advocates of vaping could also be helpful in encouraging breaking free from nicotine. While it may not be a priority to them, I think it goes hand in hand with our cause for most people who come to iCanQuit.
A month later and she was free of smoking.
That does sound wonderful, but as you say counselled with the awareness of what nicotine did to control you . Tools to staying free are just as important as the quit itself. We who have an addiction to nicotine will always have to keep the NOPE mantra.
I take it that she was nicotine free after the month with no other nrt? You would think she would still have l had nicotine withdrawals to some extent. Maybe not the psychological aspect of feeling the void, again because it was so gradual. Of course that 80% can be nil if you embrace the journey whole heartedly. I had no cravings, once the nicotine withdrawal itself was over in about 72 hrs.
Maybe our newest vaping members would be so kind as to tell us about there experience about weaning from nicotine.
Those who still vape with nicotine might tell us whether they also wish to get off of the nicotine addiction and why.
I will hope we will get some responses from them. Sometimes a fresh way of looking at things my resolve some blocks in mindset.
Got to enjoy life too Red. You and I both quit easily , my hubby and my daughter, so cold turkey does work too. With the mindset quitting can be easy and get the full deal...freedom.
People fought and died for freedom. I think we can endure a bit of pain, grit our teeth and be thankful we have the means and opportunity to do that right now.
Anyone can quit smoking with the right mindset and positive attitude.
I guess this site was targeted from that group!
They certainly made an impact.
And I think it was their intention to do so.
That group even spoke of it going viral.
It was both FACEBOOK and GOOGLE that it was trending on that day
Yeh, Theres not much we can do about it ,especially as one guy pointed out that this website mentions E-cigs and vapes in its QUITTING METHODs tab. Its laughable from the cancer council!
I think its just another law we have to abide by , Like g marriage, freedom of speech and compulsory voting and measel immunisation .
We are required to put up with it and consider all opinions LOL
I.m off to bed,,,,,,,my typing is sloppy and a little drunk and its almost 3,30 in the morning
I totally agree
But word has to get out now that counselling like us is needed to get off of nicotine. With no incentive it will continue. It is still not safe to assume it is better than smoking cigarettes, who knows if it could be worse. Certainly short misuse in teens shows up what about long term use?(if if normal use) It would indeed be great as an NRT while weaning off of nicotine.
Since the American brand Tobacco companies are sanctioning the use of vaping and stand to profit, then they are promoting it to youths to replace us as we die off.
In my opinion they would not support if they did not profit. They do not care about us. They put poison in even after we were at their mercy. It was a competition war. As long as it killed us slowly, they stood to profit for many years. Even as an NRT as people began to quit smoking they must have seen the writing on the wall and took advantage of using vape as an NRT. Maybe too many escaped it in the early years and it would end their earnings eventually. Vaping with nicotine therefore by pure logic must also be very addictive. They are promoting a generation of new clients. Lets hope they don't kill them off even faster.
What these kids with their games of biggest vapor cloud are already hospitalizing themselves. The body will again resist but the mind will react and tolerate it just like it did with us. They will find that pleasurable.
What an evil insidious drug.
We may instill the wrath of vapers like AndrewCam and Rikki who had no desire to work with us, but only to promote vaping and certainly they made it clear that although they finally forcefully admitted that they both no longer vape. Maybe they too know the evils off it more than they let on. Again, the others came at their beckoning in the belief that vaping is better than smoking.
Maybe , Maybe not.
A recent post to consider. Just one, for and against. Fair, and that's what i am trying to be "fair" . And Concerned. And wanting people to use it in the right way that will be most beneficial and less harmful and a definitely better life ahead as a non-smoker/vaper.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/5-truths-you-need-to-know-about-vaping
Contact me Red. It is going to happen with or without our help. Can we get the upperhand? Reach people while it surges forth.