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Rachel2011
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Trying again to give up

Posted in Getting started 22 Oct 2019
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It is 2 years and seven months since I first shared a story here, just one line that I had given up.

In all this time I have tried to give up over twenty times. The best result was just over a month.

So here I am again in the first hour of giving up. Now more than ever the financial pressure of smoking is simply beyond my resources. Health wise it does lower my mood and of course general fitness.

I am writing this here today for myself. I have a plan on giving up. I know the community is divided on NRT and cold turkey etc but for me I have to use NRT. I have zero success cold turkey and at least when I have tried with NRT I can last some time off the smokes.

Normally I am very depressed about trying to give up but I do feel quite adamant and sure of myself, the time has come and I cannot keep avoiding the issue and putting it off, saying just one more pouch then I'll quit.

Cutting down is a positively useless approach for me, I enjoy periods of cutting down but zoom back up to my regular 25 - 35 a day.

I am using the obscene price of cigarettes as a motivator and I have an ongoing expense for travel which I really need and want to do but just will not be able to in the quantity I want if I keep smoking, so that is a huge motivator.

The value of the travel and the benefits it brings me far outweigh the addiction and it has come to a choice between the two.

I used to enjoy having a glass or two of rum every night but gave that up a few months ago with ease for the simple reason of cost. Ciggies are so much harder for me but I realise I have built myself a wretched psychological prison that keeps me thinking I cannot cope if I do not smoke. This is just not true, the addiction has caused me to trick myself into keeping up this horrible habit.

So hour one day one....it has to begin somewhere.

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  • softly40, Mid North Coast October 23, 2019 | 7:41
    I hear you Rachel 2011, indeed it is so hard not necessarily to give up, but to start again feeling miserable to begin with. The key here is to think about being happy to begin with, do not let the "the thoughts" I am miserable, or "I am depriving myself" cross your mind even once. You will have to develop a mindset which creates happiness for yourself, not just long term for your goals etc, but every day to get some benefit, in order to live well in your body and your mind. To do this you will need to have a "daily motivation" list of self talk which will not overwhelm your mind too much. When it gets to the 4 week mark, you will need to develop a further list of more lasting types of happy experiences you want to get to.

    You have the right idea, and we are here for you regardless of whether we believe in using NRT or not. This forum is for you it is not for us to dispute or deny anyone the help that is needed.

    Please keep posting and/or reading and further support will be available for you. In the meantime Every minute, Every hour, Every day, believe you will be a stronger and happier person, with better thoughts and experiences. At the end of each day, think of one happy thing you have enjoyed. Keep this up and congratulations for being brave enough to try again.

  • Rachel2011, South Eastern Sydney October 23, 2019 | 11:27
    Hi softly40, thanks so much for your comment. I agree totally and have been focusing my attention on the benefits of having the money from not smoking and attached to all those benefits is a world of happiness.
    I am lucky that the rewards are instant, without spending that money I have it available immediately for positive ends.
    Thanks for your encouragement, have a great day.
  • Lia October 23, 2019 | 23:07
    Hi softly40. Maybe try cold turkey again. When the craving for ciggies was mine I would light up. It was not till I renamed my craving "Margaret Thatcher" that I was able to tell "her" where to go (an expletive) and to not light up in the morning before my feet even hit the ground. Over 4years and 4 months cold turkey I can still tell her where to go... I am free... Maybe try that in some form...
  • Happiness October 24, 2019 | 0:36
    Hi Rachael. Sorry i am a little late in responding. I did read your earlier postings and see that you really want to quit. I also see that with every failure to do so that you develop lower and lower self esteem or belief in yourself that you can do this.

    While we know we should quit and would like to think that we can, and maybe some day...... we keep on smoking because we are not ready to quit. No health scare, no family member ranting at you or doctor rhyming off a list of health ailments can get you to open your mind to the possibility...only you can when you have had enough.....when YOU are ready.
    The problem with cutting down is that you think about every minute and every second between. I never thought that i could quit but wanted to better my health with better food choices for vitamins etc... then of course i should cut down smoking. I simply threw them across the room so i had to get off my butt instead of reaching over and lighting up out of habit. Mindless smoking really adds up.
    My ginger and turmeric lung cleanse that i found on line is why i didn't feel like lighting up one morning and i decided to delay the first cigarette. I went from 30 to 3 that day , joined a forum, got dizzy with the first drag on day 3 and jumped into cold turkey the next day well before my quit date. If you read my story , you will see that i had a very easy time of it. Cravings really are just thoughts. Banish them by doing something until they pass and know that you won that round. With each round you gain more confidence and resolve to get this done.
    When we wake nicotine is 93% out of our system. That is why I believe in cold turkey. Champix would be my second choice and perhaps something you might do well with because you can smoke while on it. Champix attacks the brain sensors and makes smoking less and less enjoyable until you don't smoke.

    I wrote a backwards quit plan where you smoke while you learn how to want to quit. While you or anyone continues to weight the pros and cons, you will continue with that debate throughout your journey. I am sure that is quite unpleasant. There should be no debate and the thoughts (called cravings) gone very quickly and easily ignored. That is where the mindset we speak of makes all the difference.

    Embrace this journey rather than fear it. Try my backwards quit that i wrote "If You've Given Up Givin Up. Try This! Smoke while you learn about nicotine. Make smoking less enjoyable. Treat it as taking medicine. View it in a different light. Taste the poison. Look at it and truly wish to be free of it. Learn how it controls you and how you can get control back. While smoking alone, standing up in an uncomfortable place where it is just you and your cigarette. No one is telling you not to smoke it. That is between you and it.
    Please re read Alan Carr's book for he can allay any fears. Stay in close contact with this forum and read for tips and incentive and to rebuild the belief in yourself that yes you can quit smoking.
    I have given you a course of action and i hope you will benefit from it.
    I believe you can quit smoking. Now you must instill that belief.
    I believe you can quit smoking with a positive attitude going into it.
    You will quit smoking when you are ready.......
    Ready
    Set
    .........
  • Happiness October 24, 2019 | 0:57
    In no way am i telling anyone to cut down smoking drastically. Cutting back from the 30 to 3 cigarettes was the hardest part of the journey which i hadn't yet started. Way too hard...so i quit cold turkey. Scary to most, but so much easier than deprivation. I rather dive into cold water than to wade in. Get the nicotine craving over with. A craving is a craving whether psychological or addiction. The addiction part is over in 72 hours. The psychological part depends on your mindset. I had no cravings to drive me to distraction. I also read Alan Carr after i quit. My hubby and daughter both read it and quit cold turkey. Our quits were considerable easier than most i see here. You need to desire to quit more than you desire to smoke. Even that isn't true. I mean yes, it helps to get your started, but as i said before, the debate should be over or you will remain tempted. Then you use willpower to resist rather than mindset to overcome.
    Life sure is good . I am free. You can be too.
  • Happiness October 24, 2019 | 1:13
    Hi Rachael. Sorry i am a little late in responding. I did read your earlier postings and see that you really want to quit. I also see that with every failure to do so that you develop lower and lower self esteem or belief in yourself that you can do this.

    While we know we should quit and would like to think that we can, and maybe some day...... we keep on smoking because we are not ready to quit. No health scare, no family member ranting at you or doctor rhyming off a list of health ailments can get you to open your mind to the possibility...only you can when you have had enough.....when YOU are ready.
    The problem with cutting down is that you think about every minute and every second between. I never thought that i could quit but wanted to better my health with better food choices for vitamins etc... then of course i should cut down smoking. I simply threw them across the room so i had to get off my butt instead of reaching over and lighting up out of habit. Mindless smoking really adds up.
    My ginger and turmeric lung cleanse that i found on line is why i didn't feel like lighting up one morning and i decided to delay the first cigarette. I went from 30 to 3 that day , joined a forum, got dizzy with the first drag on day 3 and jumped into cold turkey the next day well before my quit date. If you read my story , you will see that i had a very easy time of it. Cravings really are just thoughts. Banish them by doing something until they pass and know that you won that round. With each round you gain more confidence and resolve to get this done.
    When we wake nicotine is 93% out of our system. That is why I believe in cold turkey. Champix would be my second choice and perhaps something you might do well with because you can smoke while on it. Champix attacks the brain sensors and makes smoking less and less enjoyable until you don't smoke.

    I wrote a backwards quit plan where you smoke while you learn how to want to quit. While you or anyone continues to weight the pros and cons, you will continue with that debate throughout your journey. I am sure that is quite unpleasant. There should be no debate and the thoughts (called cravings) gone very quickly and easily ignored. That is where the mindset we speak of makes all the difference.

    Embrace this journey rather than fear it. Try my backwards quit that i wrote "If You've Given Up Givin Up. Try This! Smoke while you learn about nicotine. Make smoking less enjoyable. Treat it as taking medicine. View it in a different light. Taste the poison. Look at it and truly wish to be free of it. Learn how it controls you and how you can get control back. While smoking alone, standing up in an uncomfortable place where it is just you and your cigarette. No one is telling you not to smoke it. That is between you and it.
    Please re read Alan Carr's book for he can allay any fears. Stay in close contact with this forum and read for tips and incentive and to rebuild the belief in yourself that yes you can quit smoking.
    I have given you a course of action and i hope you will benefit from it.
    I believe you can quit smoking. Now you must instill that belief.
    I believe you can quit smoking with a positive attitude going into it.
    You will quit smoking when you are ready.......
    Ready
    Set
    .........
  • SteveJ October 24, 2019 | 19:14
    Rachael,
    just keep trying. We are all here to support you. I am at 10+ months after 40 years of smoking, giving up, smoking , giving up...……….. I simply could not count how many times I tried to stop, just keep trying, every time you do you are a step closer to stopping for good . :-)
  • Nuts October 25, 2019 | 11:10
    Hi Rachael. Well done on your decision to quit. I think that cold turkey is the best way to go. Its like pulling off a bandaid quickly. A little bit of pain , but its over quickly. Having said that. I wasnt that strong. I went for nrt. I used patches, but only for a month . Some may say that i was weak and maybe i was, but it worked for me, and its the end result that counts. There is nothing wrong with nrt, if used properly. Whichever way you go, determination plays a big part. Stay strong and the smoke free days fly by

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