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If You've Given'Up Givin'Up. Try This!

Posted in Hints and tips 14 Jun 2019

I am making this story i refer to from time to time a little easier to access by bringing it forward. I hope it gives some insight and help to some starting out.

If You've Givin'Up Given'Up Try This!!!

So many newcomers lately. Some read the posts and are excited by the mindset they are learning. They are off to a great start, and i am sure they will succeed. However, many put in an appearance and just leave quietly i think, disappointed and feeling dejected.

I do try to be optimistic in my posts to encourage, but obviously some just do not grasp the concepts, despite their trying. You are not alone. I see many come and go and some who have tried and tried with all kinds of methods. Perhaps a quit with less pressure while you learned would be beneficial. That is what Allan Carr does in his lectures while the client smokes. Why not do the same, while learning, and gradually changing the behaviours that are 90% of the addiction?Change our anxiety to positive acceptance of becoming non -smokers. Smoke, not feeling deprived, but with a different goal in mind. Not fearing the nicotine withdrawals , but understanding them

Sure, people can just quit smoking... but do they stay quti?. Despite the method, unless you understand the addiction, why you even go through the trouble of quitting , only to pick it up again?

Some fear the thought of never ever having a cigarette again. What if you told yourself that you would give this deal your best effort for 100 days? What if for 60 days you could smoke in a different way, or take just enough nicotine via any method as to not be in withdrawal and life seeming miserable. Can you live with the thought of not enjoying the cigarette? Can you live with a few fleeting urges from the nicotone monster for 72 hours?

Fear prevents us from taking action, but ignoring our health will end in catastrophe at some point. I would rather you take an extra 60 days to quit and remain quit, than to just let fear make you give up ever trying again.

If your doctor has advised you to quit smoking immediately, then champix is closest to this method but with a drug rather than natural. Champix takes 12 weeks, is expensive and maybe you don't have the coverage. (An inhaler might serve the purpose here as well rather than gum or lozenges. ) Then cut down on the intake later. You should not feel any withdrawal.

Lets call this the BACKWARDS SMART QUIT PLAN with no fear or discomfort for the feint at heart

You go at your own rate. You can smoke. You sign a contract with yourself. that you can smoke again in 100 days, but you must change your smoking habits and mindset to the very best of your ability. You can be nicotine free in 63 days or sooner.

The Rules

You must want to WANT to quit

Write a lists of reasons to quit and reasons to remain a smoker.

For two days. Write down when you smoke and why.(morning, coffee, car, phone, break, reward for finishing chore, after meals, on break.... etc

Write down what you could do to avoid having that cigarette. (clean, pamper yourself, deep breathing, phone call, light nutritious snack,meditate, kegal , google, play a game.)

Only have a cigarette without these triggers.(If on a work break, smoke 20 feet away from your smoking friends, and re join them when you are done)

Have you cigarettes in solitude, standing up, doing absolutely nothing else. Do absolutely nothing else except concentrate on that cigarette. Hopefully, you will cut down with this process. You will see how many cigarettes you smoked without even being aware of it. You will see how much it dictates your life.

Read every new post here, and try to read old ones to learn about the mindset and other journeys.

Once you stop seeing the cigarette as your friend, your crutch, the something you just have to have or you will die, you will start to see it for what it really is.

Once you have had enough of it, and taking the time out for it, decide that you actually do want to Quit Smoking.

You have been preparing for life without it, maybe it is time to just say enough. I don't need this crap. I want to be free of it!

Remember you can smoke again but only after you have put in your best effort.

Remember that you started this process wanting to learn to Want to quit.

You are Here. Do not be afraid. If you have done this until Day 60 and followed the rules you should be more than ready.

Plan A

Plan for three days of activities, (laundry piled up, cleaning the house, the garage, the car, yardwork, a hobby, an outing,

Stop smoking by smart turkey, using your 4'Ds, and other methods learned. You are now in the mindset and know you will be free in 72 hours of the nicotine.

When you wake it is 93% out of your system. You know what a craving is, you have had them every day of your life that you smoked. They are thoughts, nothing more.

Eating healthier and drinking lots of water and doing exercise do all help negate the urges. Also remember to cut back your caffeine intake by half because you will no longer have nicotine in your system to negate the jitters it can cause.


Choose to go on Champix if you doctor agrees, and follow its instructions

Start this on day 50 if you wish to if you feel ready to go on as non-smoker at this point, but still remember the contract with yourself. You should be able to quit this in 3 weeks after your cigarette since the nicotine and its receptors are all shut down at this point.

Everyone can quit smoking and remain quit, that is your choice. You can also free yourself earlier if you choose and feel the mindset is there, at worst you resume the plan, but Day 60 is a QUiT.

Do you accept the terms? Will you let others know how you are making out and what progress you make from time to time? Will you try to help at least one other person to quit this terrible addiction?

It is better to try and try again , than to have never tried at all.

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  • softly40, Mid North Coast June 14, 2019 | 9:57
    Thankyou so much Happiness a great deal of thought has gone into different feelings (emotions) in respect of "Giving up" at the very beginning, which perhaps is the first premise that needs more input. I know from past experience, that feeling deprived is not a good feeling to have you feel depressed at the thought even. Maybe "letting Go" might be more in line with the strategies that you are putting forward. The Fear factor is quite a big problem even if you let yourself off the hook say for a given time, For me Giving Up or letting Go by halves, eg: cutting down on the amount and/or counting the number drove me silly and had me watching the clock all of the time. It is true that many aids are on the market, but the problem has not really been pinpointed as to the nicotine still being in your body ie: Health Regulators usually put this method forward and even help to pay for the aids in the belief that 'No' Tar is better than 'No' Nicotine I was under this impression for a very long time. The only aid that is available on the market without both the Nicotine and Tar is Champix, (which I am on now) and other similar products. ( I was not advised to use this method by my doctor) This then should mean that the Nicotine is really out of your body within 72hrs. The programme goes for 12 weeks or even longer as you say for this method yet not once on any reading material or advice is there any explanation that this occurs. The only understanding of this was brought to my attention in reading at your suggestion a book by Allen Carr.

    I think your ideas are spot on for the total beginner to try and especially in asking newer people to help at least one person which in turn helps yourself. I have a friend who decided to give up a few years ago and I said how long has it been she said 2 days and had a big grin on her face, she was on Nicotine Gum, 4 years later she is still occasionally on Nicotine Gum and at fraught times in her life lights up again. I adore this friend and give her thumbs up for trying so hard on the advice to hand. I tried to explain about the Nicotine Factor, but she is not ready to give up the Gum for anybody. This is the crux for her the knowledge that Tar is the Monster and the Fear of giving up the Nicotine. This is perhaps my fear too, I will be needing your support then for sure.

    I admire you for putting forward a concept which takes the heat off the beginner this is so important. Well done Happiness Well done

  • Happiness June 14, 2019 | 11:27
    I have always said the longest and hardest part of this journey is breaking the psychological habit. Your champix, softly 40, has gotten you past the point the actual nicotine addiction. It is arranging your life to fill the voids, and you have been doing that. Going on your vacation will again put less emphasis on these voids, so that when you return it would be an ideal time to get off of it if you feel ready.
    Champix apparently I have recently learned, helps boost the dopamine our bodies make and keep us more comfortable because we are used to those "boosts" every few moments. Other things also increase your dopamine like chocolate, music , love, exercise and general things that just make you feel good.
    Tar has a great impact on our lung health, but it is the nicotine that keeps you addicted, the arsenic and other chemicals added to give a faster and better punch.
    Nicotine addiction is the easier part to quit, which is why i say start with rearranging your life long routine and retraining your mind as to how you relate to cigarettes. Have those smokes, but devote the time to just it. Taste it, smell it, learn about the evils, see the money saved, the health benefits and most importantly believe that you too can quit smoking just like many here.
  • softly40, Mid North Coast June 14, 2019 | 12:02
    Well said Happiness and yes I will be attempting to give up Champix when I get back from my holiday although I will need a holiday after too. Three visits in different places the last with my 4 Younger set of Grandchildren. The only thing I will miss (I hope is my little dog I adore her) Last year I caved in during my holiday with another set of older Grandchildren (out of sight) which started me on the downhill slide again. My hope is to not cave in during this time. Now I have found this forum I will be staying in touch. Many thanks for the info and will have my chocolates and Art and singing and Zumba at the ready.
  • Shellie1974 June 18, 2019 | 21:19
    All i can say is thankyou for such meaningful words to me
  • Happiness July 02, 2019 | 2:37
    I came to realize what may have been a great factor in my easy journey to freedom. Softly40 recommended a You Tube video called How to grow into a happy Non-Smoker. Quitting smoking is emotional. Davos says we cannot think DO NOT Smoke,(its like saying don't think of the pink elephant in the room) but rather think instead of I want a cigarette, substitute the word cigarette with Air, love, family, or whatever works for you.
    Learning makes us happy. By learning about ourselves , a new hobby or interest , we get our boosts of dopamine which smoking gave us. (that is what our body craves) Good music, food, thoughts, hugs, lavender can also give us that boost.

    I learned a great deal about myself and nicotine once joining a quit group. My participation and the enjoyment it gave me may have been the key to my success. I have always encouraged newcomers to read, learn and accept the journey. Find what interests you and give your life another direction.

  • davegoodo , Murrumbidgee October 22, 2019 | 16:25
    Thanks Happiness for your wise words. I like the "stop seeing cigarettes as a friend, a crutch, a necessity". That is how I currently see them, but now I have a strategy based on your little gem. I'm going to quit tomorrow.

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