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Posted in Getting started 12 Jan 2019

Hi My nickname is Nuts because i was nuts to take up smoking. I have smoked for over 20 years and enjoyed it. But the time has come to quit. First i cut down to 5 a day , and then started using patches. Very determined. First day easy. Second day hard. Got a bit better after that. Today is day 7. Struggling a bit, but hanging in there. Have to keep busy. Hope tomorrow will be a bit better

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  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 12:10
    Hi Nuts. There are much bigger nuts here! Some nuts are hard to crack and others are easy.

    I do hope you are reading about the mindset that makes the quit much faster and easier. Being on the patch is still a form of nicotine, and you will still need to get off of it cold turkey in the end.

    Personally, I don't see the need of unnecessary suffering while you are learning the 90% psychological part required for a successful quit. Make yourself comfortable on the patch and use a gum or lozenge to top up nicotine just enough so you do not have constant withdrawals.

    The goal is to adjust to living life as a non-smoker without a cigarette in hand. With the nicotine patch you are forced to make that adjustment. You change you daily routine as not to miss the cigarette. Substitue it with stretches, deep breaths, a game, a phone call etc...All is good, your lungs will thank you almost immediately, you will smell better and know that you have started your journey to a better more fulfilling life without using a cigarette as a crutch.

    When you are happy with your new life style and have read about the mindset and are prepared to quit the NRT you can finally , truly be free. You will have perhaps 72 hrs of little reminders or urges to feed the nicotine habit, but of course you will laugh and say no way! These will be no worse than what you are experiencing today on a daily basis.

    Why suffer them at all if they make your life unhappy. You quit smoking. You just feed your body the nicotine it needs while you learn why you don't need it anymore. Once you realize this, it is easy and not at all frightening at the thought of becoming a non-smoker forever. You will not miss what you no longer want. You will not crave what you no longer want.

    How long this process takes is up to you. Mindset if everything. If you truly Want to quit, you will. Read everything here that you can. You are already familiar with using the 4 D;s presumably. Learn about nicotine, the addiction and you. Knowledge is power and the key to freedom.
  • Nuts January 12, 2019 | 12:32
    Hi Happiness? Thanks for you post. I do understand that i will have to quit the patches, but to me that is the lesser of two evils. Cold turkey is not for me
  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 13:23
    I am not sure that you understand. People take NRT;s down to 1 inhalor a day, which is the equivolent of 1 cigarette, and they still have the same withdrawal as someone like myself going cold turkey at 30 a day. Yes i did cut down to about 5 for 3 days while i joined the quit group and learned, Then did cold turkey. My theory is why suffer needlessly until you have to ? Why put your body into a state of constant withdrawal while you learn the longest part of the process?

    I am thinking out side the box. Why not learn how to be a non-smoker first? Once we accept that we can be , then we quit the nicotine. That way you don't need to fight the two devils at once.

    I know the cold turkey part sounds scary, but it is the easiest part . 72 hours of what you are going to do for how long? 2 weeks, 2 months, 6 months, 2 years. Every quit is different, and learning the mindset makes it so much easier and faster. Cravings are mere urges to smoke, not physical in most cases.
    You can do it by manufacturer's instructions, but in the end you will still have to get of the nicotine patch , which is nicotine in another form. You will still have to do cold turkey, my way or yours. I am just trying to make it easier for you and others

    Please read some posts and decide. I am no expert, but i have quit, with only 72 hrs of urges, cold turkey, I did that because i used the mindset, (smart turkey) whether i realized it at the time or not. Many here if not all agree about the mindset. My husband had the success i did, Others have too.
    Even if you keep the nicotine levels up, you may still feel these cravings. They are the ones that are psycological, caused by a disruption in our habit of smoking the cigarette, not the part by nicotine withdrawal. I just think the whole process would be easier taken in reverse.

    What do others think? I reallly don't think it can be any harder than what i have seen some here go through.
  • Nuts January 12, 2019 | 13:34
    I have tried cold turkey and failed. This is my prefered method. I want to break the habits that make me smoke first. You have your opinions and that is fine, but i am trying it my way. I will wean myself off of patches later on
  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 13:37
    I am sorry nuts. I do not mean to confuse you. You are doing so well. I just hate how the pharmaceutical companies make more money again on the misery of people who trust them. You are determined. I think you are a perfect candidate to learn the mindset. Best to you on your journey!
  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 13:38
    lol. that is exactly my theory.
  • Nuts January 12, 2019 | 13:42
    Thanks happiness. I know you are trying to help and i thank you for that. I started the patches on step 2 and i will do it.
  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 13:52
    I have no doubt you will succeed. I love the determination. All the best.
  • Nuts January 12, 2019 | 13:53
  • ravisca2003 January 12, 2019 | 14:37
    Dear Nuts , give Ur best for 3 weeks and u will ever cherish the effort.

  • Happiness January 12, 2019 | 15:37
    Hi Nuts. I see you read one of my stories and you asked what is smart turkey.
    Smart Turkey is an educated cold turkey. Quit without NRT (Nicotine Replacement Therapies) like the patch, nicotine lozenges, sprays and inhalers.
    A Smart Quit knowing the 4 D's, understanding the nicotine addiction, how you became addicted, how to change behavioural patterns to break the old habits and hold over you.

    Keep reading and you will understand.
  • Debbie317 January 12, 2019 | 15:38
    Hello Nuts, Your one day ahead of me but i am doing cold turkey and seams to be working out for me as long as no one crosses me ..might eat them for dinner right now but will back to my usual self some day til then we hang on to what ever we can grab on to and hold for dear lift till this jagged pill is gone wish you all the best and here for ya if you need a friend. :)
  • Nuts January 12, 2019 | 16:38
    Thanks to ravisca and to debbie. Hope it works for you. I am too weak and pathetic to go cold turkey, but i will win with the patches. Will keep you posted
  • Leeann , Central Coast January 12, 2019 | 18:42
    Hi Nuts, firstly you are not weak or pathetic, you are here willing to put yourself out there and make a lifestyle change, so good for you. Secondly No one cares or judges how you get to that end goal buddy, whether it's cold turkey, patches, Champix, lozenges etc. You choose your own options that you are comfortable with and that you feel you can cope with. Stay focused and strong and and just worry about getting through one day at a time. The end goal is wheat matters and there are different ways to get there. 😊
  • tough as January 12, 2019 | 18:55
    hi nuts and welcome to the site .remember the ends justifies the means .Get to where you want to be any way you can .the rewards are endless ,you will find each day gets a little easier , it is some times a rough road ,back yourself and come here for support.
  • Red-67 January 13, 2019 | 9:32
    Hi Nuts :)
    Wow, this can get way too complicated, and does not have to be.. You have made the first step, the big mental one. You do not want to smoke any more. Great, whatever works for you.. The NRT, in whatever form, will help you kick the habit first, the hardest part, and then, with the right plan, taper off the nicotine, when you are ready, the withdrawal can be minimal. We are, or were, addicted to SMOKING, not just nicotine. Just stick with what works for you, and take one day at a time. You CAN do this :)
  • Nuts January 13, 2019 | 10:44
    Thanks to all for your support. Day 8 today, still no smokes and proud of myself. I will beat the cigarettes
  • forever77, Hunter New England January 13, 2019 | 16:30
    i have quit 17 weeks ago . I used patches for the first week to soften the blow & then nothing . Who gives a rats A whether you use NRT to achieve the end goal or not . This forum is fir support , not browny points fir going cold turkey lol .
  • PuffNoMore, Southern NSW January 13, 2019 | 18:16
    We are all different, so, therefore we can adopt different methods to quit.

    If we are successful with that method, well, that method is the right method.

  • Happiness January 14, 2019 | 3:17
    The most important thing is to become a non-smoker Nuts, but to remain one successfully is to know why you can never have another puff. To accept that is your new life, without needing it. Learning all you can about nicotine and you helps this process. Then should you get unexpected urges, you will be able to deal with them better. I am glad your method is working for you!
  • PuffNoMore, Southern NSW January 15, 2019 | 17:43
    Are you going nuts or thriving today. Hope your still strong & resolute. Ive had some struggles with it today, possibly due to the heat-wave conditions?
    Ive given up a 30 a day habit, and, saved myself $362 in 11 days. How many smokes did you usually smoke in one day? Are you on the 14mg patch?
  • Nuts January 16, 2019 | 20:00
    Hi PuffNoMore. I am going good today.Still no smokes and still determined. I know what you mean about the weather. Its really hot here in S.A. I was smoking 20 a day aand i am on step 2 of the patches. Skipped step 1. Stay strong and stay positive. You can do it😙😙
  • Nuts January 19, 2019 | 10:21
    Hi everyone. Had a bad day yesterday. Really wanted a smoke all day. It was day 13. Didnt have one. Yay. Feeling back on track today. So glad i didnt give in.
  • Happiness January 20, 2019 | 13:33
    Way to stay with the program Nuts. One day at a time, and it is not a race to the finish line. Learn about nicotine, work on your mindset before cutting down too fast. That will be important to you down the road. Great job so far ,keep thinking positive!
  • Nuts January 20, 2019 | 14:59
    Thanks Happiness. I am thinking positive. Smoke free for 14 days so far is positive. Even though i thought about smoking yesterday, i didnt have one and i am proud of that. Good for me and good for you Happiness and all of you others trying to quit 🤗😄😃😊😚😁

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